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the great western heresy

By November 4, 2009Blog


In the coming months, a few of my friends will be writing blog posts at Jesus Needs New PR. Today is that kind of day. The following post was written by my fellow fundamentalism survivor Stephen Lamb.

At the opening address of the 2009 General Convention of the Episcopal Church this summer, the Most Rev. Katharine Jefferts Schori, the presiding Bishop, had this to say: “The overarching connection in all of these crises has to do with the great Western heresy – that we can be saved as individuals, that any of us alone can be in right relationship with God. It’s caricatured in some quarters by insisting that salvation depends on reciting a specific verbal formula about Jesus. That individualist focus is a form of idolatry, for it puts me and my words in the place that only God can occupy, at the center of existence, as the ground of being.”

Her comments, as you might imagine, have set off a firestorm of feedback, though I’ve yet to see a rebuttal that has as its basis an intellectually honest reading of the sacred scriptures along with an acknowledgment of how the world works. If I’m allowed to say that I think she was overstating her case in order to make the point, then I would assert that I agree with her statement.

We all have certain lenses through which we “do theology.” They have to do with our familial upbringing, our religious experiences, our presuppositions, etc. While it can be difficult to identify all the things we bring to the table, I can pinpoint two people at least whose influence informs the way I think about religion and theology. The first is my Great Grandfather, John R. Rice, one of the biggest Fundamentalist leaders of the 20th century. (See here for more about him.) I tell people the second formative principle for me can best be summed up by this autobiographical statement: I don’t talk to my father much ever since God told him to kill me, my mother, and my siblings. It should come as no surprise, then, that I am a bit skeptical of any claims regarding the value and/or legitimacy of an individualist Christianity. Larry Crabb addresses this fallacy in much of his writing, summed up best here: “The greatest lie believed today is that one can know God without being known by someone else.”

I also find Reinhold Neibuhr’s writings in this regard to be particularly helpful. This short essay below is from his book Leaves from the Notebook of a Tamed Cynic, written in 1924 during his first pastorate just out of Seminary. While he deals here specifically with revival meetings that press for “emotional commitments to Christ,” I would expand his category to encompass most of the preaching I hear, to say nothing of much of the “art” produced by the subculture responsible for those revival meetings.

A revival meeting seems never to get under my skin. Perhaps I am too fish-blooded to enjoy them. But I object not so much to the emotionalism as to the lack of intellectual honesty of the average revival preacher. I do not mean to imply that the evangelists are necessarily consciously dishonest. They just don’t know enough about life and history to present the problem of the Christian life in its full meaning. They are always assuming that nothing but an emotional commitment to Christ is needed to save the soul from its sin and chaos. They seem never to realize how many of the miseries of mankind are due not to malice but to misdirected zeal and unbalanced virtue. They never help the people who corrupt family love by making the family a selfish unit in society or those who brutalize industry by excessive devotion to the prudential virtues.

Of course that is all inevitable enough. If you don’t simplify issues you can’t arouse emotional crises. It’s the melodrama that captivates the crowd. Sober history is seldom melodramatic. God and the devil may be in conflict on the scene of life and history, but a victory follows every defeat and some kind of defeat every victory. The representatives of God are seldom divine and the minions of Satan are never quite diabolical.

I wonder whether there is any way of being potent oratorically without over-simplifying truth. Or must power always be bought at the expense of truth? Perhaps some simplification of life is justified. Every artist does, after all, obscure some details in order to present others in bolder relief. The religious rhetorician has a right to count himself among, and take his standards from, the artists rather than the scientists. The trouble is that he is usually no better than a cartoonist.

Speaking of cartoonists – the good kind, this time – check out this cartoon by David Hayward over at NakedPastor.com that provides a great visual accompaniment for the opening thoughts of this post.

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  • jason says:

    That cartoon is sadly right on the money in most cases. The way I see it, Romans 10:9 doesn’t give you a script on how to say it.

  • msvoboda says:

    As a guy that comes from a different perspective than probably most of the readers here I would like to chime in.

    I am semi-Reformed, I love the church(even with all her deficiencies), and I don’t think the church is the reason why people don’t love Jesus. Scripture is clear that people don’t love and follow Jesus because they are in love with the world.

    The one biggest complaint I have about my own camp(Reformed) is their overly individualistic reading and applying of Scripture. For example, I prefer Douglas Moo’s reading/understanding of Romans over John Piper’s.

    While I think it is an overstatement to call individualism the “great western heresy” I do think it is appropriately calling out a problem within Evangelicalism, especially my own camp.

    When it comes to Schori, she does overstate her case, but I often do that for the sake of conversation. Yes, we are saved in community with the whole bride of Christ, but yes God is saving individuals into that community. Decisionism is a problem(a prayer doesn’t save you), but at some point a person does leave his tax collecting booth and follows Jesus.

    It is also interesting that Paul often refers to his own salvation experience as an individual. Individualism is a problem, but we can also be in error by going to far to the other side and taking the individual experience out of it completely. Paul doesn’t do that and we shouldn’t either.

  • Ben McNelly says:

    While we are poking peoples brains about the difference between following Christ and religion, I would want to mention the history of the transformation of relationship to religion. Through out all of time from the Hebrews to the catholic church to today’s churches and denominations, you can see how man conforms what should be relationship to religion. Speaking of salvation, if you understand that the gate is not just narrow, but the path is also narrow – then its easier to see how setting someone on the path and booting them towards the gate would be detrimental to their walk. In fact maybe there is no gate or end for us, but since we live in a world of beginnings and ends we have to comprehend our journey as striving for the end goal. But its the never ending walk with God that is the goal, the race is the prize. But we could talk all day about the bastardization of the Christian faith. What are we going to do about it?

  • msvoboda says:

    Ben,

    “In fact maybe there is no gate or end for us, but since we live in a world of beginnings and ends we have to comprehend our journey as striving for the end goal. But its the never ending walk with God that is the goal, the race is the prize.”

    I might be misunderstanding you, so if I am, I apologize and feel free to show me where I misrepresent your words.

    First, Scripture says there is a gate and an end. The goal is not the “never ending walk” and the “race” is not the prize. God himself is the prize and the end goal. That is why the Second Coming is the “Blessed Hope.” The prize is God himself and us getting to spend eternity in intimacy with him. I’ve never understand the mindset of “the race is the prize.” If there wasn’t a “Blessed Hope” then living a life for Jesus would be a waste.

  • nakedpastor says:

    Hey Matthew. Thanks for linking my cartoon. Loved your book.

  • nakedpastor says:

    ps: i put your blog on my blogroll ,)

  • johngf says:

    Can I ask a question? What is it that Mr Lamb is stating as the great Western heresy? Individualism, the concept of a personal relationship with God, or an over-simplified Gospel?

    I had a huge essay going on about Margaret Thatcher, but then I re-read the post and wasn’t sure what the actual point was.

    I will say this though, it cracked me up when I read a comment on Prodigal Jon’s post about the Power Team that someone got ‘accidentally saved’ at one of their gigs. You know, they went to front at the call, went to the little room off to the side with a counselor who showed the picture of the two cliffs bridged by the cross and then said some prayer etc. In fact that and a few other things got me to thinking about my own style of youth ministry. I like to think I tell people about Jesus as a person who lived and related to people, as well as the context in which he lived. Then I let the young people themselves try to understand Him in their own situation. If they ask me about how to be saved, great (none has 🙁 ), but if they turn round in 5 years or more and become saved that’s great too, just like if they suddenly think some day: wow! I’m living for Jesus and I didn’t even realise it!

  • Jeff Barton says:

    Excellent job of setting up this discussion. Speaking of myself, it’s a hard thing for me to acknowledge that I am not self made. My mind has been trained to react to that thought as a conceit. But in deeper reflection I see that not only is it absurdly true, there is also no reason to regard it negatively. No, I can’t take credit for everything in my life… so thank God for the people around me! I should want to enrich them all the more!

  • Ben McNelly says:

    msvoboda,

    I wasn’t very clear and may have been a bit leaning towards the over overemphasis – both being the trend for the blog post. To clarify, I like the way johngf put “…the concept of a personal relationship with God, or an over-simplified Gospel?”. I was leaning more towards the oversimplification than any sort of wacky doctrine of commune relationship with Christ, but more challenging the mindset of the “Blessed Hope” you mention. Yes, our hope is in eternal life with Christ and it IS the goal, but before the marriage supper commences, I think there is some love lost in our lukewarm relationship with Christ. If we are his bride, then we are a mail order Russian bride. And I am pretty sure thats not what Christ is looking for. Without being too silly, if you think of God joining a dating service, he would find its mostly selfish people looking to get what they want (we are all whores really), or fake people professing to want an intimacy we are not willing to fight for.

    So is the Gospel simple? In a word, yes. Has modern day Christianity in all its forms and fashions reduced it down to a formula, a three step process and a pension plan? I ask because I care. I also care that there is a fine line between evangelism and being a salesman. We are not called to close the deal but to make the pitch. That said, I believe the danger is not making salvation simple, but calling salvation relationship. Repenting, turning from your selfishness and following Christ is a journey not an easy button. So yes there is a goal, but do we have our eyes so set on ourselves that the goal is self serving and preservationist instead of a seeking our glorious reward, eternity with Christ?

    ..And what use is an eternity with a stranger?

  • msvoboda says:

    Ben,

    I am not sure how anything I said disagrees with what you just wrote.

    My point that the goal is God himself and being intimate with him. Which is the same point you just made. God himself is the goal, which is why the prize is his glorious return… because that marks the beginning of eternity with him.

  • johngf says:

    what use is an eternity with a stranger?

    Quoted for truth! (like a Re-Tweet, not sure re-comment works 🙂 And I was going to say, ‘that’s the money quote’, but then I remembered the Osteen post)

  • msvoboda says:

    what use is an eternity with a stranger?

    I’m not even sure that is a good quote at all. Obviously, Scripture teaches those are in eternity with God, know God. Meaning- no one in heaven will feel like a stranger with God. I could post about 1,624 verses, but I don’t have the time. 🙂

  • johngf says:

    msvoboda: It is true, no one in heaven (or paradise or the new Creation depending on your eschatology) will feel like God is a stranger. Jesus said all things will be revealed (though that may be out of context). But I like that quote from Ben McNelly for two reasons:

    i) The Christian is challenged to spend more time with God, to find out His will and do it. Eternity starts now, and all that.
    ii) The preacher (emotive and/or formulaic revivalist or liberalist who says we don’t need a personal relationship with God) should be forced to introduce Jesus to people as the person He was, who lived and breathed and grieved for his friends as much as for humanity as a whole. Jesus wants people to know Him as a person instead of just learning a special prayer (like a spell? I loved that one from the Osteen post too).

    I like an analogy I heard recently. The Bible is more stories and poetry than lists of facts, because if you really want to know someone, you can start with facts, but you have to share time with them and learn the stories that make them who they are. So we learn about God from the stories of how He related to others in the Bible and through Creation itself.

  • msvoboda says:

    I like that analogy as well.

  • Stephen Lamb says:

    Johngf, you said: Can I ask a question? What is it that Mr Lamb is stating as the great Western heresy? Individualism, the concept of a personal relationship with God, or an over-simplified Gospel?

    What I’m trying to do is advocate a more robust theology of what it means to be saved in community (and not just individually) – where the evidence, we’re told, is your love for God and your neighbor – and at the same time a backing away from the claim that it is the recitation of certain words that saves you, of formula over faith.

  • Ray J says:

    I think the direction this seems to move is the admission that I cannot relate to God. God, through the incarnation, relates to me and all of humanity. But what I can do is relate to my neighbor. God does not need my works, but my neighbor does.

    If faith is the recognition of what God has done for me, it seems odd that our theologies emphasize my demonstration of proving I believe something rather than acting to my neighbor in the same way that God has acted towards me.

    The incarnation is about God being present with humanity in all it’s suffering – and that is our call: to be present in the suffering of others. I agree that we cannot have a relationship with God without having relationships with others.