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a q&a with becky knight, a certified sexologist!

By August 11, 2009Blog

MATTHEW: Becky, you’re bio says you’re a “sexologist.” What does that mean?
BECKY: That is a fun title, isn’t it? Basically, a sexologist studies what people do sexually and how they feel about it. It encompasses sexual development, sexual functioning, and sexual relationships. I find that it’s a fascinating field because it has implications for everyone. We are all sexual beings, from birth to death.

Do you wear a lot of black leather?
(Laughs) I’m a sexologist, not a dominatrix! So no, no black leather for me. Although I am always on the lookout for the perfect pair of black leather boots.

So you probably don’t spank people, huh?
Well, I do have three kids. And a husband… But, no, not clients. We don’t do “hands-on” work of any kind. For some people that’s a relief, and for some that’s a disappointment.

That sounds like a story I wouldn’t be allowed to share on my blog. OK, so before I interrupted, you were sharing about us being sexual beings…
Well, I like to remind people that being sexual doesn’t suddenly happen at puberty and then disappear at retirement. Of course, that’s because human sexuality encompasses a lot more than genitals and what we do with them. Sexuality is about how we experience our gender and our gender roles, about our relationship with our body, about how we interact with others, how we use sex to get attention, and about how we express our sexual selves to others. There’s a diagram I often use called The Circles of Sexuality and it has about thirty terms listed. It’s been my experience that people often have a very limited view of what “sexuality” is.

So basically you help people become more in touch with their sexual selves…
As a practitioner, I work as an educator and coach, helping clients reach a goal such as increasing their desire for sex, learning to orgasm, or simply learning more about how sex works. Some of my clients just need a safe person to talk to, often because their parents, church or social circle has not been able to discuss sexuality in an open and honest way.

So what did your parents say when you told them you wanted to be a sex professional?
My parents didn’t flinch, but I think my in-laws find it rather disconcerting. When I’m with them I refer to my work “at the Marriage Therapist’s office” — that makes it easier for everyone.

That makes your job sound almost holy.
Almost. Of course, I anticipate that it could get interesting as my kids get older. What could be more embarrassing for a middle-schooler than to have classmates find out your mom is a sexologist?

OK, so Becky I know a lot of Christian men and women who feel uncomfortable/embarrassed discussing sexual matters–even with their spouse–can you recommend something to possibly help this sort of person to loosen up?
Here’s the truth–Good sex–the kind that is physically, emotionally, and spiritually fulfilling–it doesn’t just happen. It takes work! And a lot of that work comes in the form of verbal communication. It’s common for people, especially people who grew up in homes where sex was seldom discussed or was only discussed in very negative ways, to not know how to talk about sex.

But there are a lot of ways to get people talking. One really simple strategy would be for the couple to read a book together – and not just read it, but discuss it.

Another strategy is to get them communicating on paper first. Sometimes we give clients a sheet of paper with an outline of body, front and back. Then we give them some markers – green, yellow and red. We invite them to mark the areas on their body where they like being touched (green), might like being touched (yellow) and do not want to be touched (red).

Similarly, I might give them a list of sexual behaviors and invite them to mark which ones they want to do, might want to do, and definitely do not want to do.

Both of these exercises provide a structure around which to talk about sexual preferences. It gets a conversation started, and where a couple takes it from there is up to them.

What do you find most troubling in regards to sexuality among Christians? Are the issues we encounter much different than the ones encountered by non-Christians?
There is a book from a Christian publishing house that sits on my bookshelf and every time I see it I feel a surge of anger (righteous indignation, I believe) well up inside of me. I think it’s a dangerous book, and although I would love to throw it out, I keep it as a reminder of how a well-meaning book for Christian young people can get so much wrong.

The part of the book that I find most troubling is the chapter on oral sex. It goes on for pages telling girls things like:

All you are to him is a hole.
He just wants oral sex so he can brag to his friends.
He doesn’t really like you, he just wants to use you.
You’ll be overcome with guilt and shame about it afterward.
People will think less of you when they find out what you’ve done.

Oh, and the kicker for me is at the very end of this long diatribe the author writes: “But once you’re married, go for it!”

Wow. That sounds like a very Christian book. I’m pretty sure I read that one
Matthew, I could go on for days, literally for days, talking about what is wrong with this approach. It is so damaging. I think Christians are trying to be better about talking about the positive aspects of sexuality, but there is a common approach which seems to be to scare the pants off, I mean ON, of kids by telling them every possible negative consequence of sex, and then somehow expecting that once a ring is on their finger they will instantly forget all of those messages and enjoy a shame-free sex life ever-after.

And there may be some people who can make that transition with ease, but the majority of my clients suffer sexual problems as adults due, at least in some part, to their experience with that kind of teaching regarding sex. I think that Christians can often be so worried about “sexual purity” that they disregard “sexual health.” And I would argue that this scare-tactic doesn’t work, and actually creates more problems than it solves.

This question I received from a female blog reader: “I’m married. I love my husband very much. We were both virgins when we got married 3 years ago. I feel guilty for even writing this, but I find his penis to be the ugliest thing I’ve ever seen… We have intercourse, but my husband really wants me to perform oral, but I just can’t. It’s just gross to me. Can I get past this? I love my husband very much.”
This is a situation where I would want to talk with her more about her sexual formation — what are the messages that’s she’s received about bodies, about men, and about sex. Does she feel that her vulva is ugly? What does she think of oral sex “performed” on her? (Sorry, but I try not to use the word “perform” because I think it implies that sex is something we do for the other person instead of for our own pleasure).

So the short answer would be that, yes, she can get past this. The long answer would be that there’s probably a lot more to unpack here.

Here’s another question from a blog reader: “What, if anything, is considered sinful between husband and wife regarding sex?”
I would approach this from a perspective of “sexual integrity.” What I mean by that is not “integrity” in a moral sense, but rather integral, holistic, consistent. I help people clarify their guiding values and then explore how those values are reflected in their sexual life (or how they are not).

This works for singles too, by the way. If people are unsure if a particular activity is OK, it helps to see how it does or does not align with their guiding values. Rather than deciding if something is right or wrong, I would encourage them to explore how it might be healthy or unhealthy. Is it an attitude or behavior that creates intimacy or destroys intimacy?

Which of course begs the question, “What is intimacy?” Or “What is sexual health?” I think that wrestling with those ideas is much more profitable, in terms of creating a good sex life, than debating whether some particular thing is sinful or not.

Have any tips for married couples who have a decent sex life but would like to improve it?
A quick tip would be to have eyes-open sex. Too often, people close their eyes and tune out sensations in the belief that it will help them last longer or reach a better climax. Wrong! Take everything in. Be fully present in your body. Absorb the sounds and smells and sights of sex.

And what’s even better than eyes-open sex? Eyes-open orgasms.

To learn more about Beck Knight, visit her website at LivingSexuality.com

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  • ttm says:

    LOVE IT!

    This interview is like a big fat bearhug to the thoughts I’ve expressed and been shamed or shunned for in many Christian circles.

    I’m going to reread it now because I want to enjoy that hug for as long as possible and with my eyes WIDE OPEN. :^)

  • @ttm:

    I couldn’t have expressed it better… thank you for being so encouraging… your comments always make me smile.. 🙂

  • I’ve worked with Becky and she’s dynamite. Anyone who needs help, support, education – I say: “Contact Becky!”

    Great interview too.

  • Becky is my twitter pal and I have a tremendous amount of respect for her work, so I am delighted but not one teeny bit surprised that Becky discussed sexuality in such a balanced, sane way. Oh and woot for eyes open orgasms.
    ~Shula

  • Brian Miller says:

    great post. so many good lines and thoughts…though i could not get the image of your childs career day out of my head…lol. off to keep my eyes open…

  • Anonymous says:

    I wandered over here from SCL, and I am enjoying all this open discussion about sex! Too long the church has acted like it’s some dirty little secret or something instead of God’s awesome gift to us!

    Along those lines, there is a book my husband and I were given before we got married that was a tremendous help both before and after. Humorous, very up front, very open: Sheet Music by Dr. Kevin Leman. I still have it on our shelf and still occasionally flip through it after 4 1/2 years of marriage. Highly recommend it! Fits right in with all these things!

  • Tam says:

    I LIKE HER!

    and if i had a red marker – i would mark my knees.

    just sayin.

  • Becky Knight says:

    Anonymous — “Sheet Music” is a good book. It is on my short list of books I recommend when clients want a Christian perspective. Thanks for mentioning it!

  • ttm says:

    Becky,

    Are there any other books you would recommend? I would probably dip into the “secular perspective” pool, as well.

  • MainlineMom says:

    So you made it clear how you think we should NOT tell our daughters oral sex before marriage is not ok, but I’d like to hear how you think we SHOULD convey that message? Cuz as I said in a previous comment, the fear worked for me and therefore I’m all about placing the fear into kids. Kids don’t have enough fear of the consequences in my mind.

  • dewde says:

    Terrific post and insight. Thanks to you both!

    peace | dewde

  • Robert Irwin says:

    I loved this interview and especially loved that Becky kept that “Sex Advice Book For Christian Teens” on her bookshelf just to remember what NOT to tell our kids about sex.

    And, in the spirit of “Sex Week,” in addition to the main “giveaway” we are doing on our site, I’m now adding an additional one…”Help Me Find The Offender.”

    If you can correctly tell me what book Becky is referring to…we’ll give you any one of our resources for free.

    You can give your guess here:
    http://becomeoneflesh.com/help-me-find-the-offender.html

  • Anonymous says:

    I’m dying to know what Christian book she keeps on her shelf as a reminder of unhealthy advice. And, I’m totally that girl who can’t get past feeling guilty about sex. I’m tearing up as I type this because I’ve been married for more than a year and can’t reach orgasm. I hope this isn’t too much info. I love my husband and he makes me feel so good. But there is like this line of feeling good that I reach and then once i’m there I feel my whole body sort of run away from it. I honestly believe it’s because I can’t release the guilt feelings. Maybe there is a lot more to it-in fact I’m sure there is. But it kills me to know how much my husband loves me and how hard he tried to please me and that I can’t get there. I would love some advice on how to work through that.

  • ttm says:

    @ Anonymous at 12:01 p.m.

    Do you like to read? Check out:

    “The Gift of Sex: A Christian Guide to Sexual Fulfillment” by Clifford and Joyce Penner, Chapter 31, No Arousal or No Release–Some Women’s Frustrations, starting on p. 301.

    “What Your Mother Never Told You About S-E-X” by Hilda Hutcherson, M.D., Chapter 5, Increasing Your Pleasure: In Search of the Big “O”, starting on p. 76.

    and my personal favorite, “Dr. Ruth’s Guide for Married Lovers” by (the famous) Dr. Ruth Westheimer, Chapter 29, Unresponsive Women, starting on p. 203.

    While you are reading those wonderful chapters that are chock full of facts and things to try, you can ask your husband to check out “Mars and Venus in the Bedroom: A Guide to Lasting Romance and Passion” by John Gray, Ph.D, Chapter 3, How to Drive a Woman Wild With Pleasure, starting on p. 35. (It’s my own opinion that this chapter should be required reading for every soon-to-be groom–especially the eager-beaver virgins!)

    Whatever you do, don’t give up!! Somewhere out there, there is someone who can and will help you to find a way to reach that amazing orgasm you and your husband are longing for. I really hope you find what you’re looking for!

    (By the way, I’m not a sexologist and I may have just recommended a book on Becky’s NOT TOO HELPFUL shelf, but I don’t think that’s the case…)

  • Rand says:

    Wow!This blog is on fire and I’m loving it! Such a blessing to read not only the posts but the comments.

  • Becky Knight says:

    ttm –

    David Schnarch’s “Passionate Marriage” is excellent! I highly recommend it.

  • ttm says:

    Thank you, Becky. I love reading. I love learning. And I love to get a word of mouth recommendation from someone really familiar with a topic. I’ll check it out!

  • Becky Knight says:

    MainlineMom –
    I guess it depends what your goal is. If your goal is to prevent your child from engaging in oral sex, then fear is one tactic. Though from the research that I have read, kids who only get that perspective are more likely to engage in sex at an earlier age, with more partners, and with more risk (ie. no condoms).

    My goal is for kids to feel good about themselves, to get the knowledge that they need, and to gain the skills that will help them make important decisions throughout their life.

    When I work with parents, I present five points that help them address sex with their kids. First, affirm them. Second, inform. Third, clarify values. Fourth, set boundaries. Fifth, prepare for the future.

    I don’t think “fear” has to be part of the conversation.

  • Bexs says:

    I think this was a very insightful blog. I myself am going to school for Psychology and want to focus on Sex Therapy and Crisis Intervention. I would love to know where you started with all this. For me it was a call from God to go into counseling and then the concentrations came as my schooling got more in depth. I’m not sure if I need special classes or seminars but I thought if I talked to you then it would boost me in the right direction. Thanks!

  • Becky Knight says:

    Hi Bexs-

    I studied Psychology as an undergrad and then worked in several non-profits doing admin stuff. After staying home with my kids for a few years, I felt the pull to go back to work and asked if I could volunteer for an area Sex Therapist. Ok… she wasn’t just any Sex Therapist, she was *my* Sex Therapist. I wanted to help other people get the help that I knew was life-changing. Then I began working part-time and also going back to school for my Masters.

    I truly, truly love my job and feel extremely lucky to go to work every day with people that I enjoy. And I am honored to help my clients find meaning and satisfaction in their sex lives.

    Best wishes on your journey-
    Becky