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‘six prayers god always answers’: an interview with its author

By August 14, 2008Blog


My wife Jessica is doing a giveaway for a book called Six Prayers God Always Answers. Here’s the link if you’d like to enter the contest! It’s easy. You just need to leave a comment.

After reading all of the great comments on Jessica’s blog–almost 200 of them!–I thought it would be interesting to do an interview with one of the book’s authors Jennifer Schuchmann.

I’ve known Jennifer for a couple of years now. During this time she’s become a dear friend and on a couple of occasions a rather helpful therapist.

I highly recommend that, once you’ve failed to win the book through Jessica’s blog, you go buy the book from Amazon or from some other book retailer. This book isn’t just another book on prayer. Jennifer isn’t an authority on the subject. She’s a journeyer like you and me…

Here’s the interview…. (btw: I’m on my way to Dallas to speak at the Echo Conference. Hope to see you there.)

Jennifer, you’ve never struck me as the kind of person who would write a book on prayer…

Thanks. I’ll take that as a compliment. And that’s why I wrote one. I’m not a prayer warrior, I don’t like chains, and for most of my life my prayer time was spent wondering if prayer even worked. Does God hear my prayers? Does he answer them? How?

As a Christian, I believe one of the primary ways I learn about God’s character is through his word. And in his word (the Bible) he’s the one who makes some pretty audacious and presumptuous claims, like “Ask whatever you will and it will be given to you.” Seems to me what he’s saying is that he answers all of my prayers. The problem was I didn’t always see how he did that. This book was my attempt to understand how he does what he already claims he’ll do.

Do you think there’s right way and a wrong way to pray?

I don’t think so. I think God welcomes conversation with us in whatever way we’re willing to have it. It’s often preachers who put “rules” into prayer making us feel like we have to use certain words or get into a specific posture before we’re “really praying.” I think God laughs at how stilted some of our prayers sound. And we’re often embarrassed to pray out loud because we know how false and fake our words sound. Prayer can get really awkward when we try to force it. I think we need to think or pray as less of a to-do (like a quiet time) and more of an on-going conversation.

Explain that a little more. Are you suggesting that we stop closing our eyes or kneeling when we pray? As if…

Yes, if it frees you up to pray more honestly and authentically. I sometimes tell people who are stuck in the rut of only praying formally to pray while they drive. They can’t close their eyes and they have a lot to think about so they learn to pray from a different place then they do when they pray formally.

Let me give you an example. My son has never-ever finished dinner, ran up to my office, pulled out the 20-pound cream stationary and hand-calligraphied a note that said, “Dearest Father and Mother: Thank you so much for the sustenance you gave me to the nourishment of my body.”

Yet, what he has done is taken a mouthful of food and said, “Mmm, Mom. I love this chicken.” Even though he is talking with his mouthful, it makes me feel appreciated. He noticed that I made his favorite dish. It makes me happy when he notices things I’ve done for him. I don’t need a formal letter expressing his gratitude. In fact if I got one, I’d be immediately suspicious, “What do you want?”
I think God is like that. I think he really likes it when I say thanks for the little things—when I notice that he’s given me a good hair day, that it didn’t rain on the weekend, or when the slow car moved out of the left lane just when I got there.

If I am pleased by such a little comment as “Mmm, good chicken,” how much more so must God be? He is a more perfect father than I will ever be as a parent.

know preachers give these ludicrous examples of people getting up at four in the morning to kneel down on cold cement floors to pray all day, but frankly I can’t do that. I’ve got a kid to get off to school and a life to live. But I truly believe that if throughout my day I acknowledge God in big and small ways that he is as delighted (and maybe more delighted) than if my prayers became a chore on my to-do list.

I recently had a pastor’s wife tell me that she believed God answered prayer—other people’s prayers—but never her prayers. My response was, “Wow! That must make you really angry.” She admitted that it did. I asked her if she ever told God how angry that made her. She said she was afraid that she’d be struck by lightening if she did.

Now this breaks my heart. Here is a woman who knows all the theology yet doesn’t see it in her life. I can’t for a minute believe that a loving God wants that.

I told her she needed to go have an ugly prayer time with God. She needed to get mad, scream at him, and curse if that helped her to express her anger and frustration with God. I compared it to my own teenage son. I expect him to treat me with respect. We don’t tolerate yelling or cursing from him. However, if he was really angry with me, I’d rather him come and yell at me, even curse me, so that I could hear what was going on and have a chance to respond. If all he did was go into his room, shut the door, and mope I couldn’t respond to him at all.

Again, I think God is like this. I think he welcomes our angry prayers because he loves relationship with us so much that he’ll take whatever conversation we’re willing to have.

When God says “Ask and you will receive,” does he really mean it? Can we pray for anything?

See here once again, I think religious people have messed up God’s word. His word says we can ask for anything, but we try to protect him, so we add on caveats such as “if it is in his will” or some other nonsense. But my reading of the Bible says ask and he’ll answer.

Again, well meaning teachers and preachers have said, “God answers prayer with a yes, no, or a wait.” That makes me so mad! If every time I asked my husband for something he responded with a yes, no, or a not now, we’d be divorced. That isn’t a very satisfying relationship. And frankly, I expect more out of my God than I do out of my husband.

But what if you really want something selfish, like say a brand new Mac, or your book to sell a million copies and be number one on the New York Times Bestseller list for thirty weeks, will God answer that?

Again, I believe that God has invited us to audaciously come to him with even the most selfish of requests—to win the lottery, for a new car, or for fame and fortune from the sales of our books. I truly believe that our innermost desires are placed there by God whether it is a dream for our future, our desire for something shiny, or our need to feel important.

We were created in his image. It’s not accident we think big, that we’re attracted to beauty, or that we want something more out of life. But I believe that when it comes to the answers we get to our prayers we have to look outside of the specifics we pray for and realize that God’s answer to our prayer may be very different than the one we expect.

Again, an example with my son: He wants a violent video game. Why? Because he’s a 13-year-old boy whose testosterone is kicking in and shooting people on a screen feeds that. However, I know that violent video games affect him in negative ways that he can’t yet understand. So instead I feed his real need for excitement with a different kind of shooting–we expanded the patio in our backyard to make a basketball court and bought a new goal that could be raised and lowered so he can play one-on-one with his dad and his friends. He now shoots basketballs for the same sense of mastery and accomplishment that he wanted from the video game.

Did I give him what he asked for? No.

But did I answer his request in a way that met what he really needed whether or not he sees it now? Absolutely.

As C.S. Lewis so masterfully explained in The Weight of Glory, “Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.”

Do I get extra points for quoting C.S. Lewis on your blog?

Not so much. But I’ll still call you up for therapy on occasion. That’s better than extra points, right?

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  • Rick says:

    I’ve got this book in a stack where it would’ve stayed – but now it’s moving to the next-in-line position, the on-deck circle. Good stuff, thanks for posting this.

  • i get what she is saying, and i have thought this way before too. but by the example of Jesus i think you tell God your desire, but then you always pray “if it is your will” each prayer Jesus uttered contains this, and i think we do it also. God doesnt really say “yes, no or wait” he gives the right answer. In praying in a way to get what we want, it is as Driscoll says “we have written the script for our lives, and we only pray for God to read the lines we have written”. I think there is alot to be said for that line of thinking. Seems like a good book, but i think i may beg to different on at least that one response.

  • Sara says:

    This was really good for me… I think I’m going to have to buy this book! I’m the type to pray like she says… constantly throughout the day rather than in a structured way, but I’m not an asker. I always stop and wonder if I should ask – because what if I want something that he doesn’t want for me? I SO got what she was referring to. I think it’s the whole not-wanting-to-be-selfish-thing.

    Anyway… it made me think. Thanks!

    sara
    http://www.gitzengirl.blogspot.com

  • You talking about Mark Driscoll?

  • yes i am. he spoke on it this past sunday.

  • Amber says:

    First of all, I was just pointed by your blog today by a friend. I love it! It’s so nice to “meet” people who feel the same way I do, and unapologetically so.

    Also, this book sounds wonderful, like more of the same benefit I get from your blog. I’ll enter your wife’s giveaway (and then go buy it when I don’t win).

  • Terroni says:

    I’m still waiting on that pony.

  • kv says:

    Great interview. Thank you. I went ahead and ordered the book in case I don’t win! If I do I know lots of other people who will appreciate it. I am really struggling with how to further my relationship with God right now. That is my true desire, but I seem to have a hard time actually moving. I am searching, and I think this book will answer part of the search. Thank you again.

  • ttm says:

    I was hoping you’d ask her if she ever prays for “rain of biblical proportions.” ;^)

    Great interview…I think this book will go on the “must buy” list.

  • Well, you know, I disagree with her.

    I think the model demonstrated in Gethseme is the one to follow.

    And all research backs it. Prayer is alignment.

  • Terroni says:

    “And all research backs it.”

    Research? There’s been research on the most effective form of prayer?

    So, there was a control group that tried only the Gethseme modeled (gold standard) prayer and an experimental group that prayed as is described in this post and then the researchers somehow objectively measured the results?

  • surfmomma4 says:

    I’ve been studing “A Course In Miracles”, and according to that “we don’t ask God for to much, we ask God for too little”. I feel we must start seeing ourselves as God sees us, as His most amazing creation of love, made in his likeness, and to see everyone else in the same way, and treat them and ourselves accordingly. Sorry for the run on sentence. BTW..love the videos of Jessica and the baby. I hope you do a audio book of Churched. I listne better than I read..(smiles)..have a great day.

  • Anonymous says:

    I guess the question then is, what is the biblical basis for the author’s model of prayer?

    And maybe that is detailed in the book and we don’t want to give away too much of the book. Her view on prayer is interesting (I love the connections to her interactions with her teenage sone) and I can see the idea of alignment from what little we have from this interview. I may not know that the purpose of prayer is alignment, but through my asking for things and seeing the different ways that God answers my prayers, I can start to see the principle of alignment.

  • Aaron says:

    Actually, I much prefer her way of doing things to saying, over and over, the ‘proper’ prayer. God is bigger than me. And I highly doubt he’s so sensitive he can’t take a kick in the shin from one of his kids in a fit of temper. Because he made me, he ought to know by now I have a vicious temper at times. My mother certainly knows it, but it doesn’t stop her from aggravating me. She doesn’t mean to; she just does. And I snap at her, not because I don’t love her, but because I’m annoyed that she just asked me, for the fiftieth time in two minutes, to take out the trash before I go to bed as though I hadn’t heard her the first time she asked.

    So why, on God’s green earth, can’t I growl at God when he aggravates me? I know, I’m supposed to be fearful and awestruck, but I can’t quite dredge up the appropriate feeling of awestruck fear.

    Okay, I’ll pack my bags for Hell, now.