What a terrible message. Encouraging people to vote for a candidate is one thing, using fear and unfound consequence as your tactics is quite another.
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Says the man who’s career was built on a FOREIGN self defense violent sport.
This renders all circulating Chuck Norris memes and jokes invalid.
I’m sorry, Mr. & Mrs. Norris, but this was the only image that this conjured in my mind: http://i.imgur.com/2YhDz.gif (SFW GIF of Stephen Colbert)
I’m unsure which is the most frightening…Chuck’s warning…or their estimate that there’s 30 million evangelical Christians.
I’m getting a little tired of two things:
1. Celebrities (on both sides) who think I should vote the way they do because they are celebrities.
2, Politicians (on both sides) spending time trying to scare people for votes instead of just laying out their own record/beliefs/plans.
People, I am NOT going to come to YOU to hear what SOMEONE ELSE believes. I am NOT going to go go to SOMEONE ELSE to hear what YOU believe. Quit telling me your stories about the other side and tell me what you can do.
(sorry…I’m just a little cranky right now)
Hope said it well.
If we’re all honest, we have heard many insist that voting for whoever the Republican is will bring our nation down the tubes, just like we’ve heard many say the same about the Democrat candidate. Fear tactics are wrong no matter which side they come from.
Sure, fear can be used inappropriately to fan the fires of discontent. On the other hand, it is appropriate to fear a lion strolling down the neighborhood street, and quite appropriate to sound a warning, and I suppose there are more than a few times in the history of our nation when fear was more than appropriate. Not that our trust isn’t ultimately in God, no matter what comes; but, good people should not fail to act.
“Good people should not fail to act.”
Okay, maybe I shouldn’t be asking this, but act HOW?
I’ve been hearing that phrase tossed around ever since Obama got elected, and it strikes me as kind of vague and just a bit ludicrous when you think about it.
I mean, as a private citizen/non-celebrity without a superPAC behind me, the only way I can really “act” in what I think is my country’s best interest is to vote, and maybe write my congressman. If I do that and my side still “loses”, the only “action” I can really take is to suck it up and wait another four years. That’s all any of us can do. Are you proposing some kind of “action” that goes beyond that?
It seems obvious that the action should depend on the situation and what you are supposed to be in any particular situation. The point was, some people think trusting God means that they should sit on their hands and wait for Him to show up, when trust more usually involves taking action as well. Somewhat like praying for the needy does little without a willingness also to be involved on their behalf, in any way that you are supposed to be.
You’re right – it is kind of vague. There are many different kind of situations, and everyone may have different paths. But the key is not to be a do nothing passivist that sits on their hands and says wistfully, “Everything will work out, somehow.”
As you say, you can vote, rather than stay home and say voting is hopeless. And, as you say, you can raise your voice about what you believe is right and true and good, and against anything that does not line up with that. And, you can try to be informed, well informed, so that you KNOW what is right and true and good.
That makes more sense. Thanks for clearing that up.
Call me cynical, but lately whenever I hear something about “good people taking a stand”, I generally assume that it’s referring to either staging some sort of stupid protest that won’t accomplish anything or posting annoying crap on my Facebook page (which will accomplish even less.) Or–worst case scenerio–taking a gun to something.
Yeah, I know, I shouldn’t be thinking that. But I do.
I’m not sure why, but in the library where I studied in college hung a poster-board with famously and wildly incorrect statements made by very influential and popular persons throughout history. There were several equally ironic statements, but the one that stuck with me was made by a founder of Warner brothers studios. Harry Warner is quoted as saying “Who the hell want’s to hear actors talk?” Harry couldn’t possibly know. To me that’s where Chuck Norris is now. He can’t possibly know.
1. it is shameful especially when those who follow Christ use scare tactics for any reason.
2. It is sad that the Kingdom of God is being equated by some Christians to be the property of one political party.
3. Anyone who scares Chuck Norris like this is an obvious win, since Chuck is invincible…until he met Obama.
I’m a big Obama supporter, but I will admit that I’m scared that, if he wins re-election, he won’t survive to the end of his term. To many armed to the teeth religious nut jobs in this country, being wound up by people like Mr. Norris.
I’ve been thinking about that, too. I haven’t completely made up my mind about who to vote for yet (for reasons that I won’t bore anyone with here), but there seems to be a good-sized whackjob element over on the far right that might get even whackier if Obama wins. (There’s left-wing whackjobs, too, but they seem to more likely to just move to Canada than go around shooting stuff.)
The Republican party doesn’t seem to be doing anything to discourage the whackjob element, either, and that kinda disturbs me.
I’m less worried about his survival, though that is important, and more worried about the state of the country. He hasn’t really done much to improve upon the current status of the country.
1,000 years of darkness? SWEET!!
I’m really more of a night person anyway.
Chuck knows stuff. Thanks for pointing the video out.
Y’know, if I visited a conservative blog right now and said something to the effect of “Oprah knows stuff” I would probably be flamed as a celebrity-worshipping liberal meathead, after a tirade about how Hollywood people are a bunch of empty-headed twerps who shouldn’t be looked to for political opinion.
But, since Chuck’s a conservative and you agree with him, that makes this situation COMPLETELY different.
Kinda funny, that.
Oh oh. This isn’t a conservative blog????? I better watch what I say then….
I never said it was 🙂 I just like pointing out logic fails where I see them–and taking celebrities too seriously is one of them.
Personally, I wouldn’t get political advice from Chuck Norris any more than I’d get medical advice from Jenny McCarthy. But that’s just me.
Speaking of pointing out “logic”… – I did not indicate that you either said or didn’t say the blog is conservative. You probably knew that, even though your reply was to my comment. Seems like you merely wish to try to pick a quarrel.
– Where did “logic fail”? I merely asked a rhetorical question, and made a statement about my behavior. No “logic” involved, that I can see, logically speaking.
– Not sure who you are speaking of in your reply to my comment, referring to “taking celebrities too seriously”. Surely not me, as I said nothing to indicate that I do. They put on their pants the same way we do. Because of their audience, however, their comments often do have broader effect.
– I have no idea what medical knowledge McCarthy has (I guess you would be well advised to accept medical assistance from her if you found yourself in dire need and she turns out to have more first aid/CPR knowledge than you). And, I do not know if you mean that about Norris because of his acting career, authorship or you merely disagree with him politically. At any rate, I do not agree with you about his knowledge, acumen or position. He knows stuff.
I think this probably would’ve worked better if we’d been talking in person.
—Look, if Norris has written stuff and has done some sort of research, more power to him. I’m only familiar with his ability to sell Boflexxes and deliver roundhouse kicks to the face. However, I watched the video and I think he comes off as a bit of a loon. But, if I saw, say, George Clooney delivering a similar speech about all the evil that Romney will do to us, I think he’d look a bit crazy as well.
See what I’m getting at? Perhaps I’m wrong, but when I hear you talk about the “stuff Chuck Norris knows”, it sounds EXACTLY like some hipster kid I knew from college waxing on about the great political insights he got from listening to the Beastie Boys. It’s two sides to the same wacky coin, in my opinion. Everything sounds brilliant when it’s stuff that you agree with already.
Maybe I read too much into your original comment, and if I did I apologize.
—-Hard to believe someone hasn’t heard of Jenny McCarthy but you probably wasted less time watching MTV than I did. Try Googling her–she’s amusing–just watch out for the image search. Believe me, I’m the one you’d rather have around if someone needs CPR.
Have a nice night.
That’s the problem with this form of written communication – it comes in snipits, and is so easy to misunderstand. I agree; I think we would find it far easier with oral communication.
I have not followed Norris much. I did enjoy seeing some of the Texas Rangers shows (only saw a few). And, I do get a kick out of the “hard to kill” jokes, and they are jokes. He writes for Townhall Magazine, and every once in a while I read what he has written, and I always find him to be thoughtful and clear in his thinking and delivery. So, in general, I have appreciated him, and I feel like I know what his perspective will be (his point of view, or direction of view, not the specific thoughts).
I know the McCarthy name, of course – just not any context for it other than celeb. And “looker”, perhaps.
The “Norris knows stuff” was not so much about this particular video as it was a reaction to what seemed to me to be denigrating comments about Norris, and I thought they lack fairness and balance…so, I tried to bring a bit of balance, though I was far from eloquent, and did not feel like it warranted a great deal of time or effort. Never watched MTV, not once I think. A hole in my “education”. 🙂
Thanks – have a good evening yourself!
I see. You’re asking rhetorical questions and not really saying anything or knowing anything…except the ominous “Chuck knows stuff..” even though you write “I have not followed Norris much.” I smell fresh paint.
Jackass.
Not sure why this is such a big deal. Democrats believe the exact same thing (if GOP gets elected, country’s going to fall) and use the same tactics. Politicians since the beginning of this country’s history have told Americans that if the other side gets elected America’s going down the tube.
Standard operating procedure.
When people believe something strongly, they’ll make a point of trying to get others to side with them. Sometimes I prefer those who have strong opinions versus those who sit around mocking them and anyone else who makes a stand.
Good comments.